Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

Joylandi 13-Mar, 2019
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AMD is undisputed among budget builders, but what is it that makes them such a great value? Time to find out!
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  • really enjoyed this type of video. More chill, good information and well presented without being over the top.

  • My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release

  • I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.

  • From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.

  • Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.

  • The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.

  • These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D

  • Anthony should have got a second try too.

  • upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99

  • Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!

  • Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)

  • I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.

  • wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?

  • Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."

  • Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.

  • Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind

  • Does he change the video Title !! weird

  • I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.

  • isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper

  • $1250 budget plz

  • Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.

  • the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it

  • When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.

  • Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.

  • Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.

  • AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.

  • If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)

  • LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"

  • Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.

  • I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL

  • I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD

  • llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently

  • One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution. Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.

  • 6:32 You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦

    • I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case

  • so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....

  • Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?

  • For $750, i see there's a little bit of value difference. Will that increase/decrease based on the cost range like at $500 or even $1000?

  • I think it would be more reasonable to just compare motherboard and cpu prices since cases, psu, ram, and gpu doesn't matter for amd vs intel comparisons

  • So basically AMD is better no matter how you try to spin it. Just Linus is an intel-shill and can’t bring himself to outright admit that fact.

  • Really loved this video! I've got plenty of friends making commitments to PC Gaming and this is a great introduction to budgeting their systems out! I really would have wished that you mentioned something about an i7's value proposition for this budget as I feel like many people automatically jump to them.

  • Honestly AMD (right now the 2700x) at the just below top end gaming machine is the top pick IMHO. Especially if you're looking at 1440p or greater where the advantages of a 9700k or 9900k diminish greatly do to being GPU bound, and what does that cheaper price on the AMD get you? A serious upgrade to GPU. For example the 2700x is regularly $310, but it also goes down quite a bit by $10-$20 less, even more commonly you can get some killer combo deals on newegg with a great MB or RAM and get anywhere from $20-$50 off. Likewise you get a pretty good stock cooler with it, often compared to say a $40-$50 aftermarket cooler. The 9700k is $420 and no cooler. all this plus cheaper motherboard options (that you can also get at some great deals or combo deals) typically means you can net about $150-$200 savings going 2700x and the 9700k is only a minimal amount better on CPU bound games, usually at 1080p, and usually no faster at 1440p or greater. Likewise multicore is a toss up between the two, 16 vs 8 threads in the AMD camp nets you some wins in some cases, while the 9700k with equal cores and higher clockspeeds nets you in some others. That $200 or so dollars will add a massive amount to your gaming results if applied either towards a GPU, a good monitor, or honestly to something else. Again 1440p you lost a couple FPS (and maybe none at all) but getter more FPS in GPU, higher refresh or better image quality in a better monitor, or maybe something like a better keyboard, mouse, headset, better chair, desk, faster drives, more high speed drives so you install less etc. Honestly unless you are either beyond having a budget at all (even if you have deep pockets) or you just need to get to that 240 fps in 1080p games (say an aspiring FPS pro or something) it just doesn't make sense, the price difference for the limited gain is just too much. There are countless ways to improve your gaming experience even if you've been dropping it like it's hot on components. Even then you can take that extra money that won't really benefit you much and spend them on games or software if nothing else. My wife and I got a set of 1080 tis for our gaming rigs last year (and for context I'm running a caselabs case so don't mind spending extra money for the quality)... this year when we upgrade CPU we could have dropped more on a 9700k or even a 9900k, but I just couldn't justify it. It really just doesn't add up unless we basically had an almost unlimited budget for our rigs and all of our gaming equipment and games. Just my opinion though.

  • +Linus random question: why do I get the Video_scheduler_internal_error BSOD and how do I fix it? After all I tried it appears it is related to graphics card driver or hardware but I'm not sure which. I don't have a second gfx card to test. I do know that with the gfx driver completely removed using DDU, it doesn't crash. But as soon as Windows update auto installs the driver, it crashes.

  • 1500 price point

  • i feel bad for that chair

  • Because its way cheaper and you can upgrade old motherboards with new processors. Or you can buy older products for dirt friggin cheap. That little performance penalty isn't worth 2-3x the money for most people

  • $750 for a gaming rig, don't thing so. A grand or two for sure!!!

  • Poor people? Im still using the FX 8350

  • I still remember Luke, man. I do like the new people though.

  • More videos with Anthony! I like that guy.

  • AMD always

  • This was easy more informative and interesting than I was expecting! Thanks for this!

  • Hey it's the Linux guy. :D

  • An important thing to consider for budget gamers is that AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future, while the Intel chipsets can be expected to run away before you can say 'WAIITTTTT!..."

    • "AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future" Next generation (Zen 2) yes, but beyond that probably not, outside of the low-end.

  • 2:23 I hope his health is a concern of LMG. He clearly needs help

  • I was thinking AMD would be much better. To tell you the truth, for lees than 2% performance, I would not OC and stick to Intel with its better stability.

  • I've been looking at lap tops for a few games for under 450 and then at 300 pounds which had been intresting refebs the way to go on 300 pound budget but new amd was the way at 450 2500u and on board gpu blasts Intel for game performance from what I can tell on reading on line

  • Also, it kinda shows that CPU is largely irrelevant outside of workstation loads.

  • But... With the standardisation of 8 cores on the major console platforms, have engines and games been optimized for 8 threads or cores? In stock case, AMD would have a clear advantage.

  • I have a i5 8400 its very good

  • I have the 8400 with a 1060 6gb and have been so far very happy with my performance. Figure by Christmas I'll try to do some upgrades

  • Personally I think it's silly to hold yourself to such a tight budget on something like a PC purchase which should last you 3-5 years especially on the CPU side. An 8700k vs 2700x build is a lot more interesting to me, as they should be fairly similar in prices. The 8700k would win in gaming and the 2700x in productivity while the 8700k system would be about $75-$100 more for the processor (if you can get it at $330 which it goes on sale for all the time) and overclocking board, over 3 years that's like $2.50-$3.00 a month difference. I would also advise a SSD at minimum for boot drive with your primary game on it to reduce texture load times and give a much better experience.

  • Fun thing. Here in Europe (Serbia) 2060 is around 500$ so this doesn't do us any good lol

  • now stream with the same systems and you will easily be able to stream better with amd than intel

  • You are so miserable with these f*****g commercials, just like every other channel

  • I also had the budget of 750. But i have to buy monitor, cpu case and keyboard and mouse in that budget.

    • I took my time and bought everything on sale and/or with rebates. My final cost on my PC (no monitor/keyboard/mouse) Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3000MHz RAM, RX 570 8GB, B450 mobo, Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD, $620. Took me about 4-6 months to build though....

  • What laptop is Antoni using?

  • This was a fun concept. I was honestly surprised both came out so even, roughly. I'd definitely like to see future videos comparing other price points.

  • This was really good, I am still running a 4970k and its good to see where each team is going in regards to a setup that is middle of the road.

  • Rosewill PSU, HAHA.

  • Vega56 would have been a much better choice than rtx 2060

  • FX processors anyone! Yeah, it's kinda sad I switched to a Ryzen 5 1500x when it came out. I discount on it from Newegg, so it was cheaper than Intel's current offerings. Once I got that I just slapped it into a cheap b350 and I was good to go!

  • Linus, please can you include European pricing next time? Thank you.

  • because of AMD"s advertising... you can have an athlon 3000 CPU that runs LIKE 3.0GHZ! (in reality it's 1.4ghz).... i hate AMD< always have

  • for the first time in my life i am ready to make a gaming PC, have a budget of $1500 but its giving me a damn headache trying to figure what to get, everyone i ask have different opinions. oh god

  • What about a 3000 dollar limit

  • The i9 9980xe was worth it

  • I bought a 2000 dollar cpu worth it i9

  • Here is something to think about...Without AMD to keep it honest, how much would an 8400k cost? Competition keeps the tech advancing, keeps prices low, and ensures a constant stream of new/faster tech.

  • Soon to be for top of the top end gaming systems ;)

  • anthony picked my motherboard on his first build lol

  • AMD won a Google gaming deal now, stock is soaring

  • I would like to see some comparisons between low PC hardware to high end server hardware for media servers, like plex or emby with all the features enabled to how different types of hardware effects performance of the software.

  • 1050ti i5 3340 8gb ram £250 maxed anything ive ran

  • Lol AMD for poor people? What a blindsided dolt. I'll take AMD and put the money savings towards a more exciting hobby, like track days.

  • Can you help me build my own pc, please. I don't think you have ever done one with an older girl gamer. I am 11 almost 12, and I want to get into the world of pc gaming!

  • Would be good to see some productivity and stream benchmarks not just "gaming"/

    • Yeah .. sponsored by Intel and nVidia? Very unlikley to see those results here.

  • Loool AMD is for poor people.

  • İ like the see more of this

  • one thing as a grown up, i don't skimp on PSU like i did as a "kid," not even for budget builds... at the VERY least a Seasonic Bronze

  • Question: Why Intel CPU and B360 only support Ram 2666, but you can put 3000???

  • Could you do an update on this video which includes productivity numbers? Considering amd's proficiency with the number of course, it would be very interesting to see.

  • they should make Anthony the Oracle. "we need to visit the oracle." then they tap the mirrort and Anthony appears and he says "thisss bettter be goooood" like the wizard of oz. and then they're like blah blah blah can you help us... and then he speaks in riddle and they have to decipher what he's saying and then before he fades away he does the tap head meme and leaves.

  • i dont see the appeal in budget "pc" gaming if you aren't aiming for at least 144fps/144hz just stick to console low budget computer hurt my eyes

  • Remember Athlon XP Barton cores? Pepperidge farm remembers.

  • What about a mid ranged 1200-1500 dollar pc builds between intel and amd? wonder if it would stay around the same or will one come out on top?

  • I would have liked to see how those systems differed in productivity workloads. I supect the AMD system would have blown the Intel system away in applications like video editing, simply because of the higher thread count.

  • Nah, not really. Using Ryzen 2600X and a 1080Ti Mini no problem with a Gigabyte b450i, SP 512GB SsD, 16gigs of 3200 c14 DDR4 and Windows 10 LTSC 1809. I hate elitists who constantly act like having the absolute best is the only thing or GTFO. It’s not 1999 anymore. I agree AMD GPUs are buggy but I’m not complaining about FPS or latency on my CPU. Mistrust over buggy releases is hard to wipe off but I’m pretty sure AMD rocks now.

  • I really enjoyed this video! I would love to see another future video with an even lower budget, say $500, that may or may not be overclockable / for premium gaming purposes.

  • only reason intel better performs because focused on single core performance which most games use but when multicore AI in games will be a thing will be mind blowing and intel will die

  • i know linus is a very reliable..